tried to get into jw.net twice but a popup informed me that the official website of jw's is jw.org.
this was about 2 hours back.
anybody with a similar experience?.
Yes, it used to be the first or second link when you put in Jehovah's Witness in the search engine. Now it's the very last link or at the top of the second page.
I guess the more witnesses that log onto the official site. The further down jwn will be.
i haven't been on here long but i found this site a couple days ago and quickly realised it had a lot of posts by people going through similar experiences as me.
i read some of the answers and it helped relieve some inner anguish i've been carrying since everything i came clean to my parents about everything i've been reading about.. .
i just have been going through a rough patch right now; that might be an under or overstatement depending on your own personal experiences with this kind of stuff.
Quote from DOC- Emphasize to your parents that you are NOT leaving Jehovah, just that you have lost confidence in the promises of the F&DS/GB because of all of their past failed prophecies. (YES, they have claimed to be today's "Ezekiel Class" prophet!) Thus, how can you make all of your decisions about your life on their promises. Tell them you must stick to the Bible and what it says. Demand that anything is supported by the Bible. JW publications never really do this.
DOC really like how you broke that down.
Once you put down their publications and just read the bible you wanna kick yourself practically eveyday. Wondering how you could of been so blind, but after that, the guilt starts to go away.
Reading John 8:32 and the "truth" shall set you free takes on a whole new meaning.
Welcome and thanks for sharing. Just remember to thine own self be true. You are the only one who has to live with the decisions you make and no human can comment on your relationship with Jehovah.
How does not wanting to follow man mean you have left Jehovah? Doesn't not wanting to follow man help bring you closer to Jehovah and the one whom he sent forth; Jesus Christ?
Relish in becoming guilt free.
this is one question that trinitarians try to avoid because they have created a very embarrassing problem.
the bible is very clear when the angel tells mary that holy spirit will overshadow her and she will become pregnant.
the angel does not say the father will overshadow her but the holy spirit will and if the holy spirit is a person that would make him the father of jesus.
Jesus is a God just as satan is a god. Jesus is just not GOD ALMIGHTY (Jehovah God)
In that sense he is fully God and was fully a man when he came down to earth.
When I look at it like that I can understand the foundation of the trinity. Wheras, the Father, the Son , and the Holy spirit are one because they all work in harmony together and you can only reach GOD ALMIGHTY thru the son.
Jesus left his heavenly position as a God to come and be the sacrifice for our sins. Jesus sits at the right hand of GOD ALMIGHTY.
GOD AMIGHTY loved the world so much that he gave his only begotten son.
GOD ALMIGHTY sent a helper the Holy spirit.
ALL in harmony with each other.
In the Old Testament (when Jehovah dealt with mankind) Jehovah was the savior, but in the New Testament Christ; under the new covenant is the savior (as Jehovah no longer deals with humans). We must go through Christ for salvation; hence, the necessary partaking of the communion.
When I look at it from that point of view it all makes sense to me. It might not work that way for others, but this is how I'm comfortable understanding it.
i did a search and didn't see this news on here yet.. i like how the 2015 completion date for ny now says 2016, yet there has never been time for college.. .
http://t.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20140513/biz/405130321/-1/news&template=tabletart .
Read the article:
One of the local brothers owns a Modular home business. I wonder if he will start contracting only to the WTBT$ exclusively. A move that could prove quite lucrative for his family.
Can't help but to think he's already been dipping his toes in.
just heard from my daughter,her husbands mother has just sent him a text to tell him his grandmother has died.
no telephone call,no visit.
his crime?
franticfran- May your husband be supplied with all the comfort he needs thru GOD. I'm sure your love will offer him lots of warm support and mental rest.
anddontcallmeshirley- At least he got a text message. One member here reported a while back she didn't hear about her mother's death from her JW siblings until after she was already buried for two weeks! And, they didn't tell her...she heard it from a secondary source.
WOW! So sad they can't see the hurt in that.
I wonder how they would feel if their worldly relatives treated them the same by giving them a dose of their own medicine.
been lurking for a while on here and thought i'd jump in.
a great deal of many thoughtful posts on here but have to say am a bit turned off with the 'rabid apostate' ones!.
my history- was raised in a divided household, mum converted to jw when pregnant with me back in 1970, dad was never jw but was supportive of taking us to meetings, assemblies etc.
Welcome. It is a completely different journey.
Try to keep your faith and trust in GOD. You really have to know where you stand with yourself and beliefs while on here.
Some of the posts are very informative, some quite encouraging and others are totally at the far end.
If you still believe in GOD, but not necessarily the society this is good place to get your grounding.
Enjoy
i'm sure we could all write long paragraphs about this question, but in a few words, what is your biggest regret, or frustration in life due to being a witness?.
what missed opportunities did it cost you?
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Oooops!!! My thoughts ran ahead of my typing....
NOT Partaking in communion
at the risk of being shouted down, i thought i'd point out that "tithing" means giving 10 percent of your income to a church.
it comes from the old english word teogotha meaning tenth.
i've seen nothing that establishes tithing in the watchtower.. while i'm all in favor of pointing out the watchtower's lies, hypocrisies and faults, the language we use matters.
@gentledawn and nvrl
So basically they are getting a check every month from each congregation every month. Sounds beter than social security and welfare. All for freeand tax free too. Wow
They are have real progressive thinkers at the society.
at the risk of being shouted down, i thought i'd point out that "tithing" means giving 10 percent of your income to a church.
it comes from the old english word teogotha meaning tenth.
i've seen nothing that establishes tithing in the watchtower.. while i'm all in favor of pointing out the watchtower's lies, hypocrisies and faults, the language we use matters.
@ antioch I guess my question is, what specifically did the WT condemn about "tithing"? I am not read up on that. Did they specifically condemn the 10% part? Or the arrangement of consistent expected amounts? I dunno.
They condemned the churches constantly having their hands out. Constantly being in their members pockets. Receiving salaries and such.
Yet the society has come to be no different. They just say its all donations. Witness pay for cars, homes, med insurance and such all broke down into small monthly fees for each publisher worldwide. When you add up all the different monthly or yearly dues/fees for the different categories it does come up to a significant amount for poor people. In paying your publisher monthly fee of $ for ex. the KOA fund.
These are forms of tithing. Just depends on which definition you use.
They used to boast that all would be provided whether you gave or not. I guess that isn't the case any longer. They never passed a collection plate around, they still ask for monies though. They don't have collection plates they are much greedier. They have boxes that hold more.
Also, they would boast a life of frugality, but Rutherford lived like a mega church Pastor in Christendom with all materials paid for and supplied by the publishers. At least their homes and such weren't built on the backs of their members by free labor in diguise of preparing Jehovah's earthly kingdom for the resurected.
This is slight off topic, but has anyone seen financials for any of the GB?
I wonder will they start issuing ipads to the publishers to help advance the kingdom work?
i'm sure we could all write long paragraphs about this question, but in a few words, what is your biggest regret, or frustration in life due to being a witness?.
what missed opportunities did it cost you?
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Partaking in Communion
